Ethnic Subjugation

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, I think it's a good idea for PM Twoballski to release the
new number. If the journalists don't know what is happening, they
couldn't possibly help. For example, I don't accurately know the
reasons and mechanisms of the geno innu and counter-meritocracy -
so I am basically guessing. But, it looks to me like some kind
of ethnic subjugation (e.g., had I been white etc.) using some
strange "weapons". True, the Ekballpore military lab people think
of the geno innu as some kind of a personalized bio weapon - sort
of like an individually selective nerve gas kinda thing.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, considering the fact that your TML approach ushers a new
and intelligent thrust to miniaturization, and that the SF bay area
is filled with toppers of eminent schools from around the world,
Ekballpore engineers were wondering why your work is not receiving
the warm response it deserves. Ha ha! That's my query too! I guess
the LML approach that has been going on for a long time has created
a sense of inertia among the folks - some form of tech follower-ship.
This node I do exactly in the same way as I did in the previous node,
etc. Also, some may think that TML will make setup time fixing
too fast, so many physical design engineers may have less work to do.
Wow! That makes it sound like the proverbial John Henry story - tech
follower-ship inhibiting tech leadership.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

No, I tend to disagree on your drawing a comparison with the John Henry
story. He was a huge folk hero, not just in America, but elsewhere in the
world too. Even in Calcutta, when I was young, we had a bengali version of
the John Henry song. He is said to have won a competition against a
steam-powered drill machine with just his manual operation of the hammer;
of course, he died out of exhaustion at the end of the "race". You may say
that if he had worked at his regular pace he would have lost to the
steam drill. But, that's not the point - his story indicated that sometimes
it may be unwise to bring in automation to displace a huge work force.
Particularly, when the work force is not an extremely sophisticated group.
But, that's not the case with the SF bay area. Also, when a new innovation
comes up new jobs are created around it. For example, my latest drawing of
an electroMagnetic engine may stir new interest in modeling, simulation, and
production of the devices.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, Ekballpore engineers like your electroMagnetic engine, seems
like a new concept with the pawl based power transfer. Finally, you are
an engineer with the concept of a new engine! :-) Some Ekballpore
intellectuals agree with your view of the John Henry story. They think
what's happening in the bay area may be completely different, where the
tech minded folks like you are being pushed back leaving them with
no power to move forward. It's all about sexual control, they think.
Those in power may be avoiding folks like you for fear of losing their
grip on the women of their respective companies. This was happening in
Ekballpore in Ekball's time. Ceos used to be jokingly called csos - chief
sex officers!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

I gather from the geno innu that the woman who is analyzing my intentions
by looking at my feeds is a "jatismor" - meaning that it's someone who
can remember her previous incarnation, as you know, hindus believe in re-
births. Apparently, the jatismor types can make very good mind readers.
In fact, I have seen that she is pretty accurate at times! Engineer, what
they are doing is to give you slow terror - and, you seem to be enjoying
it at times. Your situation is so bad that even terrorism by the geno innu
folks feels like a respite. Well, like the ttk mentioned, I am letting
it impact only the smaller part of my brain - but, of course, ideally,
there should be no geno innu at all, it's extremely annoying and
distracting.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

We in Ekballpore think of the geno innu as a secret effort at the
impairment of your brain, that, apparently, you have resisted through
excessive creative engineering work, and also through some intelligent
forking of the brain. We believe their scheme was to make you get into
trouble with an impaired brain - and, that it's a vile kind of terrorist
act for which you haven't gotten closure! If the perpetrators of the
terrorist act were to be apprehended, what would you want the punishment
to be? I would like the Ekballpore model that was applied to Mr. Doball's
enemies to be used against them. They should pay me half of their assets,
and go to jail for five years.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, another goddess Durga festival is coming for bengali hindus!
Some in Ekballpore were impressed about goddess Saraswati - the daughter
of the goddess Durga. Apparently, she is the goddess of learning, isn't she?
Yes, she is - in fact, there is a separate festival to celebrate the goddess
Saraswati during the spring time. Too many festivals, you might say!
No, that's not the thing they pointed out. They said you are one of the rare
bengali hindus who have contributed heavily to the world's knowledge
and learning. Yet, bengali hindus who worship the gooddess Saraswati don't
acknowledge your contributions. Does that mean their respects for the
goddess is fake? Good question! I think they may have been pressured by
some powerful entities to not acknowledge my works. Probably, the powerful
entities promised them something for not acknowledging my works. Like in
Tagore's God's Morsel, the priest on the boat said, throw the baby into
the waters in order to steady the boat.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

The new police think that the same "powerful entities" may be linked
to the geno innu and counter-meritocracy against you! Also, we classify
the lack of acknowledgement of your works under the general category
of the lack of journalistic freedom. Because, if you like something,
and say you like it - that's also a form of honest reporting. For example,
why do Ekballporeans like your blogs so much - because there is a
perception of reduced journalistic freedom in the US. You are one
american who writes it as he hears/feels it.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, there is a lot of speculation in Ekballpore about the Las
Vegas mass shooting that took place recently. Yes, it was a very sad
incident that took place, where an apparently wealthy gunman shot
down a whole lot of innocent people. Definitely wealthy because he
owned two planes, and gambled with big bets, according to news reports.
So, we are now looking at genocidal innuendo type slow methods, as well
as fast genocides happening simultaneously in america! Many Ekballporeans
think that wealthy with a feeling of deficiency is a bad combination -
they cite the example of Ekball. For example, the Las Vegas gunman
did not have any children - that could be his feeling of deficiency.
This could even give a clue to get at the perpetrators of the geno
innu.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

There is a certain sense of symmetry in your circuits and gears, Ekballpore
engineers point out. Even the NAND/NOR duality is some kind of conceptual
symmetry. Is that intentional? Well, the professor at the IIT who had
talked about the most pervasive law of nature being the law of causality,
also indicated another rather pervasive law that states "Nature prefers
symmetry". I guess some of these early inputs remained as a few guiding
thoughts in my works. Marvelous! There is increasing awareness that your
direct decimal computing structures lead to the first successful simulations
of direct decimal computing (adding, subtracting, comparing, etc.).
As per the wikipedia entry on "decimal computer" all previous efforts
involved converting decimals to binary first. Apparently, since the
introduction of the decimal number system a couple of thousand years ago,
you have come up with the electronics to compute the numbers directly
without base change - in 2017! Ha ha! I am not too sure of that - but, a
quick google check did not find any other serious effort. Also, there is
nothing particularly decimal about my scheme - it can be used for other
bases too.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, it appears you have been looking up events around the second
world war, and in particular, about the decisive war between the USSR and
Germany? Yes, but, how do you know I had been looking up the Operation
Barbarossa, Bagration, etc.? Some Ekballporeans gathered it from the geno
innu. Yes, since I have time on my hands, I wanted to study some of the
events around the WWII. Even we in Ekballpore looked them up in the
Wikipedia - many were appalled by Hitler's fascist/racist policies. Of
course, Stalin was no saint either, he had earlier struck a secret pact
with the Nazi regime over Poland, and got lots of Russians killed on the
suspicion of being traitors to the Bolshevik cause! But, on the whole, I
found that the Russians deserved more credit for stopping Hitler's killing
spree and master race ambitions. Do you think the Hunger Plan devised by
Hitler's regime bears similarities to the counter-meritocracy that you
are suffering from? Also, does the Untermenschen (sub-human) description
of the Russians by the Nazis find a parallel in how you are getting treated?
Well, our constitution has various safeguards, but, the current american
practice deviates from the constitutional framework, and, as you have seen,
both Nazis and America had a racist history. I have seen myself that folks
with very little creative output moving around as if they are the "master
race"! :-) Hopefully, my works and writing will change all that, and again,
it will all be beautiful!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Recently, we in Ekballpore were shocked to read about the scale of the
horrible atrocities against the Rohingya folks of Myanmar. Of course,
it's been going on for sometime, and often, some brushed it aside as an
inevitable result of long standing inter-ethnic disputes. But yesterday's
New York Times article by Jeffrey Gettleman :
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/rohingya-myanmar-atrocities.html
opened our eyes in a big way. What is your take on the crisis? My feeling
is that the Rohingya folks should be quickly rehabilitated to a safe island
(Myanmar has many islands) location where they will have no contact with
the rest of the Myanmar people. Any island between 100 and 200 square miles
should be a good location for around 1 million people - where they can live
and prosper. It should be the Myanmar government's responsibility to build
the roads, houses, schools, and hospitals on that island, to start with.
Also, all the culprits involved in the recent carnage should be punished
as per international law - and, all these things should be closely monitored
by the UN peacekeeping forces. They should land on Myanmar immediately.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, on your resume you write you are 57 years old, but you work like
45. Some Ekballporeans wonder how you keep so much younger than your
age. Well, as I said earlier, I do a lot of walking and exercise to
keep reasonably fit. Also, my body is still good enough to produce the
vital juices! Another important distinction between young and old is that
an old brain cannot quickly come up with creative ideas. Recently, when I
did more than 150 snippets in the space of a year, I figured that my brain
is still capable.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

We agree, the new police think that you had to try to keep yourself fresh
and younger because your work is not yet finished, and you are fighting
the "hunger plan", the siege at a personal level. As if you are creating
the snippets out of a "Leningrad"! They say it is entirely possible that
the forces of subjugation may have threatened those that would otherwise
appreciate your work and generate good business for you, as it happens
under normal circumstances. Also, you are simultaneously struggling to
keep your sanity under the destabilizing influences of the geno innu.
They think that your writing here serves to check and verify the state
of your personal sanity - hey, I have not yet gotten crazy, I still write
sense. Yes, I have adjusted my life under "siege" to wait and hope for
a better time when the "siege" clears.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, new development in Ekballpore - in a nation-wide referendum
the Ekballporeans have decided to give up the age-old state religion
Boom-baism! Why what's wrong with the religion? You guys seem to be
doing well being boom-baists, lately. You also readily appreciate my
work whenever you like it - that's a great attribute, because I am not
a boom-baist. Not that everything was bad about Boom-baism - Lord Boom-ba
himself had advised his followers to appreciate things that are good
and beautiful, irrespective of where it comes from. But, we felt that
the religion did not go well with our new system of meritocracy.
Because, Lord Boom-ba believed that when he would pass away, he will
remain the only deity that the Ekballporeans are allowed to worship.
This gave rise to feudal attitudes among Ekballporean overachievers -
once they rose to fame they applied vapor pressure of sorts so that
others cannot rise! That kind of situation discouraged people from
taking their talents to higher and higher levels. I see, so, did
you choose a new religion?

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we did. In fact, people were given four choices from the most populous
of world religions - namely, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism.
The religion that won the most votes was Buddhism, and in particular, the
Mahayana variant, as opposed to the stricter Theravada, associated with
Myanmar, for example. Did they say anything on why any of the other three
was not chosen. Yes, they did. They did not choose Christianity because
they thought of negative attributes such as racism, and war mongering.
Regarding Islam, they cited too much animal sacrifice, and dress code.
The main problem with Hinduism was its divisive caste system, and too much
time and resources wasted on idol worship festivals, idol immersion
polluting rivers and lakes. We basically wanted a religion that is very
light (almost not there), and adaptive to our culture, even in a dynamic
way, changing with time. Also, the lord Buddha fought against the hindu
caste system, and idol worshiping. He questioned blind faith and said,
trust no one, not even me, find the truth for yourself. It's more of a way
of life, if you choose the correct way, you can attain Buddhahood. So,
there is no "vapor pressure"! At the same time, we plan to retain some
of the good attributes of Boom-baism for the new generation of
Ekballporeans. Wow! Congratulations on your new religion. In fact, I had
earlier thought of Buddhism as a good alternative for the Indian
subcontinent, replacing both Hinduism and Islam - both came from the
middle east (mesopotamia). While Buddhism was indigenous.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, your idea that moving the earth by a couple of thousand miles
away from the sun will significantly cool the earth down has struck an
interesting note with some Ekballpore geophysicists. They think that
it indicates the possibility of measuring the relative distances from the
sun using temperatures monitored at various points along a longitude
on various latitude points. But, such measurements have been done, e.g.,
http://www.oocities.org/marie.mitchell%40rogers.com/PaleoClimate.html
Yes, but, they want to do it from a plane flying at a very high fixed
altitude at 12 noon on a particular day of the year every year from the
equator up to the north pole along the 12 noon coordinates (not exactly
the same longitude). Also, the temperature monitorings on the surface of the
earth should be done right below the flying aircraft. All temp measurements
must be done in vacuum, just receiving the radiation component of the
sun. Sounds like an interesting experiment, if the sun's luminosity is
assumed constant, it can produce interesting data on earth's positional
shifts and global warming. Although I am not sure if this type of experiment
has been done before.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

After you talked about the experiment, I checked more on the composition
of the earth's atmosphere. One useful pointer is
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/science/atmosphere-layers2.html
Also, if you look at the temperature variation with altitude, such as in
https://www.britannica.com/science/ozone-layer ,
one can think that the experiment may provide useful data about the
global warming by the greenhouse gases in the troposphere, if the 12 noon
plane is flown at the tropopause altitude - that corresponds to the first
trough of the temperature curve. By taking the difference of temps at the
tropopause, and at the ground, one can see the changing impacts of global
warming. But, the experiment may not give useful data about the earth's
positional shifts, because the atmospheric layers above the plane can
cause unpredictable variations in the temperatures monitored from the
plane.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Since you guys are turning to Buddhism, I found this interesting
item "Edicts of Ashoka" from the Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Ashoka
King Ashoka ruled over a massive Mauryan empire during 269-232 BC,
and was the first to embrace Buddhism in India. Yes, we know.
One good thing we like about the King Priyadarshi (another name of
Ashoka, meaning handsome) is that he broke the tradition of oral
transmission of knowledge that was before him - which kept much of
the history of the vedic period covered in mystery. He mainly used the
Brahmi script (the earliest deciphered script from the subcontinent,
the Indus script which is 1500 years older is not yet deciphered) for
his inscriptions in Prakrit language. I agree, to put it clearly in
writing is so much better - it is my practice too. The new police think
that the geno innu and counter-meritocracy on you are happening through
an oral method, mainly to evade leaving the proof of its occurrence.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Since you guys are turning to Buddhism, I found this interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Ashoka
King Ashoka ruled over a massive Mauryan empire during 269-232 BC,
and was the first to embrace Buddhism in India. Yes, we know.
One good thing we like about the King Priyadarshi (another name of
Ashoka, meaning handsome) is that he broke the tradition of oral
transmission of knowledge that was before him - which kept much of
the history of the vedic period covered in mystery. He mainly used the
Brahmi script (the earliest deciphered script from the subcontinent,
the Indus script which is 1500 years older is not yet deciphered) for
his inscriptions in Prakrit language. I agree, to put it clearly in
writing is so much better - it is my practice too. The new police think
that the geno innu and counter-meritocracy on you are happening through
an oral method, mainly to evade leaving the proof of its occurrence.

Before and after Ashoka, they were happy and free, and trusted each other, so there was no need for writing.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Since you guys are turning to Buddhism, I found this interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Ashoka
King Ashoka ruled over a massive Mauryan empire during 269-232 BC,
and was the first to embrace Buddhism in India. Yes, we know.
One good thing we like about the King Priyadarshi (another name of
Ashoka, meaning handsome) is that he broke the tradition of oral
transmission of knowledge that was before him - which kept much of
the history of the vedic period covered in mystery. He mainly used the
Brahmi script (the earliest deciphered script from the subcontinent,
the Indus script which is 1500 years older is not yet deciphered) for
his inscriptions in Prakrit language. I agree, to put it clearly in
writing is so much better - it is my practice too. The new police think
that the geno innu and counter-meritocracy on you are happening through
an oral method, mainly to evade leaving the proof of its occurrence.

Before and after Ashoka, they were happy and free, and trusted each other, so there was no need for writing.

Since there are no written documentation from that era, it is difficult to
infer if the people (not the aristocrats) were happy or not. Oral
transmission change over time, the Mahabharata changed from 8800 verses
to 100,000 verses over time
[http://varnam.nationalinterest.in/2013/05/mahabharata-date-based-on-archaeology/]
who knows what got introduced where!]

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Since you guys are turning to Buddhism, I found this interesting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edicts_of_Ashoka
King Ashoka ruled over a massive Mauryan empire during 269-232 BC,
and was the first to embrace Buddhism in India. Yes, we know.
One good thing we like about the King Priyadarshi (another name of
Ashoka, meaning handsome) is that he broke the tradition of oral
transmission of knowledge that was before him - which kept much of
the history of the vedic period covered in mystery. He mainly used the
Brahmi script (the earliest deciphered script from the subcontinent,
the Indus script which is 1500 years older is not yet deciphered) for
his inscriptions in Prakrit language. I agree, to put it clearly in
writing is so much better - it is my practice too. The new police think
that the geno innu and counter-meritocracy on you are happening through
an oral method, mainly to evade leaving the proof of its occurrence.

Before and after Ashoka, they were happy and free, and trusted each other, so there was no need for writing.

Since there are no written documentation from that era, it is difficult to
infer if the people (not the aristocrats) were happy or not. Oral
transmission change over time, the Mahabharata changed from 8800 verses
to 100,000 verses over time

A bland statement. Did the author make a time machine?

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
[http://varnam.nationalinterest.in/2013/05/mahabharata-date-based-on-archaeology/]
who knows what got introduced where!]

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.

miscreants.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

[Arindam Banerjee]

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Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.

If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.

I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.
http://youtu.be/nQZFS9Hij0M
If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.
I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

The video is nice, but the results are controversial:
https://www.quora.com/Epics-of-India-Is-it-really-true-that-we-have-found-Dwarka-City-of-lord-Krishna
Also, please look up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_archeology_in_the_Gulf_of_Khambhat

But, yes, authentic underwater archeology can shed more light on the
ancient histories. Also, the fact that the Indus script is yet to be
deciphered is another hurdle. The question about the simulation of the
post-ice-age flooding is that it assumes that the flooded regions are
lower and therefore they will be flooded first.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.
http://youtu.be/nQZFS9Hij0M
If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.
I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

https://www.quora.com/Epics-of-India-Is-it-really-true-that-we-have-found-Dwarka-City-of-lord-Krishna
Also, please look up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_archeology_in_the_Gulf_of_Khambhat

from those links:

They stress upon some piece of wood and pottery which may not be pottery.
But in the videos on youtube you get a different picture.

They ignore that two cities were found, with walls etc. like the Harappan
civilisation. But the video shows this.

They ignore that many artifacts lifted from there are carbon tested to 10000BC.

The two cities found were 5000 years older than any other known city of that
comparable size anywhere.

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
But, yes, authentic underwater archeology can shed more light on the
ancient histories.

It does indeed. They thought that Indian history started only some 3500 years
ago but Shri R D Banerjee after discovering Mohenjo-Daro pushed it back by
two thousand years, to 5500 years ago or roughly 3500BC. These cities before
the Ice Age Floods (flood tales are from all parts of the world) have to be
before the Ice Age, so there is a match.

? Also, the fact that the Indus script is yet to be

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
deciphered is another hurdle. The question about the simulation of the
post-ice-age flooding is that it assumes that the flooded regions are
lower and therefore they will be flooded first.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.
http://youtu.be/nQZFS9Hij0M
If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.
I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

https://www.quora.com/Epics-of-India-Is-it-really-true-that-we-have-found-Dwarka-City-of-lord-Krishna
Also, please look up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_archeology_in_the_Gulf_of_Khambhat
But, yes, authentic underwater archeology can shed more light on the
ancient histories. Also, the fact that the Indus script is yet to be
deciphered is another hurdle. The question about the simulation of the
post-ice-age flooding is that it assumes that the flooded regions are
lower and therefore they will be flooded first.

About the Indus valley script, that has been deciphered by one person in the
US. He posted his findings in soc.culture.indian some years ago and I
remember responding. Basically he went against the trend of western
scholarship, which holds it to be hieroglyphic like the Egyptians. Working on
the assumption that the script is phonetic basically, he could do the
decipherment and provided some translations. I don't know how well his work
has been accepted.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.
http://youtu.be/nQZFS9Hij0M
If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.
I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

https://www.quora.com/Epics-of-India-Is-it-really-true-that-we-have-found-Dwarka-City-of-lord-Krishna
Also, please look up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_archeology_in_the_Gulf_of_Khambhat
But, yes, authentic underwater archeology can shed more light on the
ancient histories. Also, the fact that the Indus script is yet to be
deciphered is another hurdle. The question about the simulation of the
post-ice-age flooding is that it assumes that the flooded regions are
lower and therefore they will be flooded first.

About the Indus valley script, that has been deciphered by one person in the
US. He posted his findings in soc.culture.indian some years ago and I
remember responding. Basically he went against the trend of western
scholarship, which holds it to be hieroglyphic like the Egyptians. Working on
the assumption that the script is phonetic basically, he could do the
decipherment and provided some translations. I don't know how well his work
has been accepted.

In my view, there is no glory in being ancient, it's the enterprise that
matters. See that the modern bengali language is only about 200 years old,
yet it is so spohisticated!
Also, when it comes to archeology (the science of dating and
decipherments) there is not much difference between western and eastern
scholarships - then one can also hint at brahmin and kshatriya scholarships,
gujrati and non-gujrati etc. :-)
The video's scholarly value seems to be questionable - had that not been
the case it would be big news, as would also be the case with a fool-proof
decipherment of the Indus script.

[Arindam Banerjee]

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Post by Arindam Banerjee

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Post by Arindam Banerjee

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Post by Arindam Banerjee

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Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
In fact, at some point we had thought about transitioning to
hinduism from Boombaism. We had reckoned that hinduism being a
multi-deity system, the "vapor pressure" would be less prevalent.
But, by looking at how your creative work has not been acknowledged
by hindus, we figured that the "vapor pressure" was working in an
indirect way, and distanced ourselves. Probably, the caste system
and the oral tradition has been keeping the positive aspect of
boombaism suppressed. Also, our adaptive Buddhism will be very
different from what it was during Ashoka's time. We will have a new
book that combines the essence of Buddhism with the positive
attributes of Boombaism, keeping in mind our modern cultural trends.
The monks will have no strict dress codes, the orange robes will be
optional. They can also get married and have a family. The temples
will have yoga and meditation centres where the monks will help the
followers in improving their physical strength and mental focus. Also,
they must be well versed in the adaptive aspects of Buddhism - so that
they can explain the differences with respect to the original doctrine.
There will also be a cultural auditorium where buddhist hymns will be
chanted, and musicians will play their music. Some temples will also
have science/art/craft labs for young people, and playgrounds associated
with them. The monks will be paid by the govt of Ekballpore, and will be
rated by the followers - higher performers will receive higher pay.
Wow! That means you are introducing competition even among the monks!
Yes, but, they can donate their money to any charitable cause if
they want to.

Envy of brhamins by the kshatriyas (the brahmins were more popular as they
only contributed and did not tax) led to the rise of Buddhism (a kshatriya
initiative).

Probably not envy, but the brahmins were being comsidered secretive
and conspiratorial - through the sruti system they kept the knowledge
to themselves ...

Most certainly envy as common people adored them. Trying to bring Brahmins down
out of envy has been the way of life among the envious other higher castes long
before Buddha. Sanskrit shlokas are not secret by themselves, but as the
envious lots make fun of them as they can not pronounce them, let alone
understand them, those in favour of Sanskrit punished the miscreants. The way
out has been to expand the number of Brahmins so that the critical mass is
exceeded in order to continue with Sanatana Dharma.
miscreants.

It's quite the opposite! My current readings of the era are suggesting to
me that these early hindus were actually foreigners to the then India
who brought with them the idol worship traditions and pre-sanskrit. And,
they maintained information segregation with the local folks using the
oral method of transmission of knowledge. Probably, they were good
looking, so the local folks got overwhelmed - many inter-marriages
took place, and the current indian population is very mixed. Also, the
Sanatana Dharma is not that "Sanatana" (eternal), as the archeological
clues suggest!
The other important thing that happened with the kshatriya push for
Buddhism is that it spread to various parts of the world, exhibiting
a sense of enterprise that was missing before. Enterprise is important -
if you sit in one corner sticking to your Sanatana Dharma, you get
overwhelmed sooner or later. And, enterprise must be hailed!

Depends what you read. Archaeological findings have pushed back Indian history
and culture back to at least 10000 years. But this is recent. They have found
underwater artifacts under the sea where Dwarka used to be. Then the ice age
finished, and the sea levels rose and drowned the ancient city.
http://youtu.be/nQZFS9Hij0M
If you read 19th century writers, who started the Asian Invasion Theory, and
believe them, then the recent archeological findings can be ignored.
I have found that people are very good at ignoring what does not suit them.

https://www.quora.com/Epics-of-India-Is-it-really-true-that-we-have-found-Dwarka-City-of-lord-Krishna
Also, please look up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_archeology_in_the_Gulf_of_Khambhat
But, yes, authentic underwater archeology can shed more light on the
ancient histories. Also, the fact that the Indus script is yet to be
deciphered is another hurdle. The question about the simulation of the
post-ice-age flooding is that it assumes that the flooded regions are
lower and therefore they will be flooded first.

About the Indus valley script, that has been deciphered by one person in the
US. He posted his findings in soc.culture.indian some years ago and I
remember responding. Basically he went against the trend of western
scholarship, which holds it to be hieroglyphic like the Egyptians. Working on
the assumption that the script is phonetic basically, he could do the
decipherment and provided some translations. I don't know how well his work
has been accepted.

In my view, there is no glory in being ancient, it's the enterprise that
matters. See that the modern bengali language is only about 200 years old,
yet it is so spohisticated!
Also, when it comes to archeology (the science of dating and
decipherments) there is not much difference between western and eastern
scholarships - then one can also hint at brahmin and kshatriya scholarships,
gujrati and non-gujrati etc. :-)
The video's scholarly value seems to be questionable - had that not been
the case it would be big news, as would also be the case with a fool-proof
decipherment of the Indus script.

Plain facts when ignored leads to disaster. Sophistry helps the suck-ups. But
one should always know the limits.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, we in Ekballpore feel more vindicated in our decision to go
for adaptive Buddhism after reading your debate with the anti-enterprise
guy! How the guy was trying to pull you back. No wonder hindus got
overwhelmed by foreign rulers so many times in history. Such negativity
is rare. Well, I am a hindu too, but, of course, I was not aware of
the negative features of hinduism when I was young and did not have much
creative output. It's like an archeological artifact with some writings
inscribed on it. But, all types of mud and sand particles obfuscating the
inscription. You spray a little bit of water, and brush the mud out, no
it's still not clear, spray a little more water, and again use the brush,
and so on. My creative effort is like that.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

My recent readings on the origin of the ancient hindus was prompted
in part from wondering where the language of Sanskrit came from!
No doubt, Sanskrit was one of the best languages that the ancient
world had seen - and, the lyrical quality of the major modern Indian
languages is derived from it, they all evolved from Sanskrit. The
earliest important grammar of Sanskrit was composed by Panini who
lived between 300 and 400 BC. Looking up Panini from the Wikipedia,
I find that he was, unfortunately, killed by a lion. Apparently, in
those days, there were many fatalities involving wild beasts. An
interesting quip (dark humor) attributed to the sanskrit animal
fables Panchatantra, as quoted in the wikipedia says: "A lion killed
Pāṇini; an elephant madly crushed the sage Jaimini, Mimamsa's author;
Pingala, treasury of knowledge of poetic meter, was killed by a crocodile
at the water's edge. What do senseless beasts, overcome with fury, care
for intellectual virtues?"

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Very impressive news about farming without soil - that can go with
multi-story farming. Thanks to the genius of chemical physicist
Yuichi Mori of Japan, polymer film farming has started producing
fruits and vegetables in good quantities:
http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/article/2094426/farming-without-soil-new-japanese-tech-makes-growing-fruit-and
Multi-story farming is also suitable for regions that are often
flooded. But, the main worry was how to get so much soil.
Hopefully, the technology will advance soon to produce even wheat and
rice.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Very impressive news about farming without soil - that can go with
multi-story farming. Thanks to the genius of chemical physicist
Yuichi Mori of Japan, polymer film farming has started producing
fruits and vegetables in good quantities:

http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/article/2094426/farming-without-soil-new-japanese-tech-makes-growing-fruit-and

Multi-story farming is also suitable for regions that are often
flooded. But, the main worry was how to get so much soil.
Hopefully, the technology will advance soon to produce even wheat and
rice.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, do you know of a guy called lemon (or "lebu" in bengali)?
He is considered a mastermind to the situation that led to geno innu,
as per information received by the new police. No, I don't know of any
"lebu" - of course, I have heard the name being discussed by the geno
innu folks, but, they discuss many names, some I know, some I don't!
He is said to be so ugly and conspiratorial that he could hoard food,
start an artificial famine, and let the famine-strickens' women come
to him and beg, and then he would do them for food. He is like a
razakarous guy who would not mind popularizing foreign gods to local
folks through some clever adaptation - in order to extract advantage
form the foreigners.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

You seem to be putting it as an ancient script decipherment problem.
Ok, let's see - lemon is spherical, like a ball, one ball, ekball.
So, the indication is towards an ekball like guy who is razakarous,
meaning he bribes his women to external agents in order to gain
advantages! Also, he sits whole day hatching schemes to push and push
selective individuals till their back is against the wall, and then ...
"Ugly" - of course, that's beyond his control, we can waive that,
but the "conspiratorial" part sucks.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Interesting data on global press freedom index:
https://rsf.org/en/ranking

There is good press and bad press. I guess that the above represents
good press freedom index. Freedom to express news and views as you
see it! For example, the geno innu folks freely talk about what I am
doing inside my private premises - that's bad press!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, with the new Miss World competition coming up, many
Ekballporeans realize the importance of the positive feature of
Boom-baism. For example, the lack of the positive feature can make the
judgement of the competition biased. True, but, that's why they have
many judges from different cultures - it's all about unsuppressing
the positive feature of Boom-baism! In fact, if you look closely,
the press freedom or the lack of it is also related to the presence
or the absence of the same positive feature. Speaking of press freedom,
how is it that Ekballpore is not on the list? We are still recovering
from the ruthless press suppression of the Ekball era! My recent readings
on the Bengal renaissance period (early 19th century) revealed that
it was an Irishman named James Hicky who had started the first printed
newspaper (Hicky's Bengal Gazette) in Calcutta (now called Kolkata) in the year of 1780 - apparently, his anti-establishment writings played an
important role in paving the way for the renaissance. Since I originally
come from Calcutta, I would like to show my respects for Mr. Hicky!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, with the new Miss World competition coming up, many
Ekballporeans realize the importance of the positive feature of
Boom-baism. For example, the lack of the positive feature can make the
judgement of the competition biased. True, but, that's why they have
many judges from different cultures - it's all about unsuppressing
the positive feature of Boom-baism! In fact, if you look closely,
the press freedom or the lack of it is also related to the presence
or the absence of the same positive feature. Speaking of press freedom,
how is it that Ekballpore is not on the list? We are still recovering
from the ruthless press suppression of the Ekball era! My recent readings
on the Bengal renaissance period (early 19th century) revealed that
it was an Irishman named James Hicky who had started the first printed
newspaper (Hicky's Bengal Gazette) in Calcutta (now called Kolkata) in the
year of 1780 - apparently, his anti-establishment writings played an
important role in paving the way for the renaissance. Since I originally
come from Calcutta, I would like to show my respects for Mr. Hicky!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Speaking of the Miss World competition, many in Ekballpore have
liked the group theatrical performance by Ms Sheena Chohan and her
group in the Miss World Bangladesh 2017 contest's final episode.
How a woman with a dream breaks free from the entanglements of a
male dominated social setup. Some likened it to President Doball's
daughter's breaking free from the gang intro situation. Yes,
I have watched that episode too, and liked her performance, as
well as the performance of the contestants. Credit goes to the
organizers for transforming a beauty pageant into an art form.
Very talented group of contestants.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Regarding the press freedom ranking (#43) of the US, some in Ekballpore
think that it would have been much worse if you had not written from the
US. They think that your blogs have helped raise the rank in a big way.
What is your reaction? Ha ha! Thanks. Obviously, the press freedom
situation in the US is not at a desirable level. Most importantly, all
shooting incidents, fire incidents and such should get independent
inquiry by the news agencies - not just reporting based on what the police
or the politicians say. For example, these days, I have been doing some
readings on ancient/medieval Indian history, and how the waves of migrants
and conquerors entered the subcontinent through the Afghanistan corner and
slowly the wavefronts moved inwards. Similarly, at some point in the
future, some folks may research on geno innu and counter-meritocracy
that have impacted me. The lack of press freedom would make it difficult
for them to know the story from my side. Also, press freedom is enhanced
in a situation that appreciates it - for example, if my blogs are shown
to receive unrealistically low hit counts, it clearly indicates that the
environment is not press freedom friendly!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, since we are getting into adaptive Buddhism, I am also doing
some readings on the ancient times. Do you think king Ashoka's second
wife queen Karuvaki played a key role in his later Buddhist endeavors?
Yes, I *guess* so - considering some facts. First of all, she hailed
from Kalinga (Orissa) where Ashoka fought his last war before turning
to Buddhism and his anti-war position. Secondly, she was a fisherman's
daughter - meaning that she belonged to the "lower" caste indigenous
people of India of those days. So, she must have had the first hand
experience of the caste repression meted out by the early waves of
sanskrit/vedic hindu waves coming from the north-west. One has to
keep in mind that Ashoka himself came from "upper" caste hindu
background - his father being a kshatriya, and his mother a brahmin.
So, queen Karuvaki was the first from a different situation that got
close to him. Yes, I agree. And, that resulted in the first intellecual
counter-wave to the early waves coming from the north-west. We now think
that repression was a common theme among all the hindu (early) and the
muslim (later) waves that propagated from the north-west. While the hindus
did it through codification into the religious practices, the muslims
did it by the sword. Interesting how the most important seat of hindu
learning, namely, the university of Taxila turned into a seat of Buddhist
learning after Ashoka! True, but, one must acknowledge that while the
early hindu wave was quite shrewd, they were also extremely creative!
Eminent scholars like Chanakya, Panini, Charaka, etc. were all associated
with Taxila. Also, they had created the vedas, the upanishads, the
mahabharata, etc. In my view, the second and the third counter-waves
were created, somewhat inadvertently, with the spread of the british
rule in India, and later, with the creation of Bangladesh.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, you have opened our eyes. Interesting that you
mention the creation of Bangladesh as a third counter-wave.
They broke off from their north-western cousin when the latter
refused to be ruled by the then east Pakistani party that had just
won the general election of 1970,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistani_general_election,_1970
Yes, it was extreme counter-meritocracy! Actually, your situation
is similar. You have shown brilliant rjgci designs - but folks are
not acknowledging your work for fear of your achieving a position
of power. So, you are like east Pakistan now! Ha Ha! Yeah, there
is a similarity. Another important thing we notice is that
when we look up "population by caste in India" on Google, only
about 30% of the people belong to the "forward caste" category.
Amazing that 70% of the people are maritally segregated from the
top 30% - since the caste is basically a marital grouping. And that
Buddhism is popular among the "lower" caste people. This goes to
show that the "waves" had later prevailed.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Well, apparently, the waves from the north-west prevailed,
but, the counter-waves did not go waste. For example, the
other countries where Buddhism spread as a result of the first
counter-wave, made tremendous progress in the contemporary
world. The problem with the early Buddhist people of India
was that they did not make themselves militarily strong,
although they dominated some regions for centuries. The
second counter-wave, that of the british rule in India has
had tremendous positive effect. The education and the political
systems are a legacy of the british rule. The british helped
remove the gruesome sati ritual, the modern bengali language
and literature could flourish during the british period. Although
I grew up in independent India, I am basically a product of the
british system! In fact, the third counter-wave is successful.
That would not have happened without the second - if there were
no democracy, there would be no general election of 1970 in
Pakistan. Writing on the newsgroups is also based on the premise
of the democracy of thoughts - better thinking should win!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, how is your vacation in Kolkata coming along - are you
getting acknowledged for your creative works from your genepool
folks? Are you crazy, there is no such thing happening! I get a
feeling that mostly folks from make-believe and other entertainment/
cricket get acknowledged here. Not an engineer like myself.
Does it also have to do with the fact that India's press freedom
index is rather low. at #136? How is it so low, India being a
democracy, and so plural? This is a good question - that I am
trying to understand.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Well, the answer, as I thought, to your second question could be
rather simple. The press and the media in India is still dominated
by the 30% (or less) forward caste people. So, it does not represent
the 100% of the people. The idea is to quickly increase the participation
of the non-forward caste folks. In fact, taking the example of the second
counter-wave that we discussed earlier, the british not only brought the
steam engine, calculus, and the english language (more linear) with them,
they also introduced the printing press (of german origin) to India - and,
that created positive change. The reason why I am not acknowledged
in India could be that I write on information racism quite a bit.
Media Indians may be thinking that some amount of racism is good - we
have been practicing it for millenia [as earlier discussed in the context
of the "waves" propagation]. And, if my engineering work is acknowledged,
that also dignifies my writing - wow, this guy does so good engg, his
writing must also be important! :-)

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Why did the British not eliminate the caste system, while they had
done so with the "sati" ritual? Well, the British had come to India
to do business, and later to govern. They did not come to alleviate
the sufferings of the non-forward caste folks! The "sati" ritual, on
the other hand, was prevalent among the forward caste people, and it
was only some forward caste reformers like Ram Mohan Roy who urged the
British to stop it. The benefits that the Indians derived from the
British rule were not a result of direct altruism. That's why I had
used the term "inadvertent" earler. In fact, the British used the
Manusmriti (~ 200BCE-200CE), an ancient hindu legal text that outlines
the caste system in detail, to formulate the hindu laws under the british
empire. The hindu caste system also finds mentions in the Greek historian
Megasthenes' (350-290 BCE) writings (Indika). So, in effect, the British
did not disturb the endogamous castes - it was not in their interest!
The first major post-british protest against the hindu caste syetem
was registered by Dr. B. R. Ambedkar, an eminent scholar coming from a
non-forward caste, when he had publicly burnt the book of Manusmriti in
late 1927. Dr. Ambedkar later wrote the constitution of independent India,
and afterwards, converted to Buddhism.
Engineer, but, our adaptive Buddhism is going to be very different. It will
be an activity oriented concept - we are now adding some martial art forms
like taichi, kungfu, etc to the activities in the temple. The idea is that
the followers will be strong in body and spirits, and not run over again by
the boom-baists. Because, we now understand from our discussion that the
hindus had come back to recapture the society from the Buddhists, long after
king Ashoka was gone. We will also add a weekly newsletter to the temple
to introduce a local press component - it will discuss local issues, such
as lack of cleanliness, etc. The newsletter will be supervised by a group
of volunteer devotees. The "holy" book of the new religion will only be
two to three pages long, to keep it simple - just like a self-help manual
for configuring a new gadget at home!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Wow! The size of the "holy" book for the new religion seems to be
very appropriate for this era of internet blogs. Nobody has time to
read thick books before getting into an endeavor. Yes, we thought so.
By the way, President Doball appreciates your thoughts on the hindu
caste system. Although you come from a forward caste, the caste system
is not good for you, because it's endogamous, while merit is exogamous
by its inherent nature - products of merit transcend barriers, cross
boundaries. So, he said, the caste system is basically counter-merit.
Probably, that's why Indian freedom fighter Subhash Bose also opposed
the caste system. In fact, he thought that any racist regime involved in
exogamy control of minority males may find endogamous systems its natural
allies. King Ekball liked the hindu caste system.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, I had a chat with some Ekballpore engineers recently - I
asked them what was the main lesson that they derived from your works.
They said, it was the constructionist approach. Because, in the age
of the internet, knowledge was no longer a major source of power.
Most of the information in various fields is already available out
there in the open domains. So, the importance has shifted to what
you can construct with that information - the novelty of the
construction. Yes, I think that's a good way of looking at it.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Although, I must add that even before the internet era, creation of
new knowledge involved new constructions based on pieces from the
previously developed knowledge base. But, getting the pieces was more
difficult then than it is now. That's why "knowledgeable" folks were
more respected in those days - Oh, he is so knowledgeable, people would
say! Now, it's more important to know how to connect the dots. For example,
my pulse generator and the voltage monitor circuits are two dots.
You can connect them in various ways to create new applications.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

What if someone is both knowledgeable, and can connect the dots? Yes,
that's ideal, and that should be the goal. Because, if you don't have
reasonable knowledge and understanding of a field you can't figure
out what new can be added to the field and how. Sometimes, of course,
the knowledge and understanding of a field may come from experience
and practice in the field, and not strictly through formal education.
Yes, we agree. For example, much of the new "constructions" we are
doing in Ekballpore - the meritocracy, the police reform, the adaptive
Buddhism, etc. are achieved from our experience and practice in the
previous regimes. Your new constructs of "waves" and "counter-waves"
in Indian history were also not developed from your formal education in
history! But, we are learning from it. In fact, looking at kiss
discrimination between castes and faiths ("jol" for water among hindus,
and "pani" for muslims, etc), we are making it a point to have no
such discrimination among the adaptive Buddhists - it will be solely
based on individual liking.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Many in Ekballpore seem to be neither knowledgeable, nor can they
connect the dots! What about them? Well, they won't be good fits
for fields related to application, propagation, and creation of
knowledge - but, they can be extremely successful in other fields
that are less knowledge intensive. For example, areas that depend
more on natural inborn talents or skills, such as sports, music,
acting, fine arts, etc. Also, there are many tasks that don't require
that much knowledge, but, you can gain knowledge through practice.
Your small business is heavily knowledge-based, but, somehow we see
that you are not getting any projects for a long time. Do you think
that the US is losing its republic nature? We think that to excel in
work and to get acknowledged/rewarded for it is a basic human right,
but, apparently, that right seems to be eroding. Yes, I would say so
if the state or its agents secretly came in its way.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

We tend to think so because you have earlier mentioned that when
it came to the looting of your privacy, another constitutional
right, it would not have been possible without the participation
of the state or its agents! The new police find the latest revelation
by the ttks quite interesting - where they say that the disturbances
you are facing are motivated by the fear of opening up a deadly secret.
Now, what kind of secret is that which can even compromise the republic
nature of the state?

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

At this point of time, that is not clearly known to me. But,
one thing seems to be clear that we are seeing too many no-rjgci
non-hands-on folks in the positions of power. Typically, rjgci
folks are very dynamic, always moving ahead with creative ideas -
they would give a damn about bogus "deadly secrets" considerations.
Unfortunately, that's not what is happening around me. Obviously,
because your small business is of tremendous rjgci merit - having
won the "best" award in its category for three years in a row,
beating many other well-known businesses
http://santaclara.awardinglocals.org/NotableWinners.aspx
But, we in Ekballpore attach big importance to the republic nature
of the state - we think it is the primary responsibility of politicians
that getting elected to power to ensure that the people's constitutional
rights are protected. Otherwise they are no good!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Wishing Merry Christmas and Happy Newyear 2018 to all readers around
the globe. I have had a financially tough year in 2017 with absolutely
zero cash flow - yet it was a creatively satisfying year! Hoping to see
new projects in the new year. Engineer, on behalf of the people of
Ekballpore, I would like to wish you a good NewYear in 2018! Apart from
your pervasive snippets that you created during the first three quarters
of 2017, your writing in the last quarter helped change our world views
more than ever before! For example, now we know, thanks to your writing,
that December 25 is also an important day for the majority of Indian dalits
- that of burning the Manusmriti, the text of the brahminical order.
In fact, even I did not know many things myself - I knew through reading
and thinking during the last quarter.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Speaking of world view change, some Ekballpore literary figures argue
that another important thing that the British East India Company brought
to Bengal in the 1700s was Shakespeare - the most modernist story-teller
of the renaissance era Europe. Of course, Shakespeare, and probably
more importantly, the re-tellings of Shakespeare by one of the Company's
clerks, Charles Lamb, and his sister Mary Lamb. Shakespeare's plays provided
inspiration to a whole lot of bengali literary figures of the 1800s, most
notably, D Mitra, MM Dutta, BC Chatterjee, RN Tagore, and others. They
wanted to create a revolution with the bengali language, literature, and
music which was as yet unexplored in a modernist sense. The other most
influential figure was the modernist bengali folk song writer Lalon Fakir
(1772-1890) - who is often ignored as a bengal renaissance creative
artist, but, he was extremely important [I listen to and like his songs
even now]. Now, we are in the 2000s, and you see that the linguistic &
literary side of the bengali culture very well-developed, and also the
music, the theater, and the cinema - all thanks to a positive British
legacy.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

How was the Bengali language before the modernist developments?
It was mainly used as a spoken language for the common people -
although some writing has been done during the period starting
from 1000 AD through the 1700s, it was not of a high standard.
[we had to read some of it as part of our school curriculum]
The language originated during the Buddhist Pala dynasty in Bengal.
The fact that bengali shares major parts of its vocabulary with
Santali (spoken by the Santal people of Bengal, original inhabitants,
and not part of any "waves") clearly indicates that it was very
widespread among the common people. Even the later Sultanates of
Bengal recognized that and promoted it to official court language
status. But, somehow the language did not flourish to the levels of
Arabic or Persian that were the languages of the ruling class during
that period: 1352-1757. The scenario completely changed during the
British rule.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we do agree that the linguistic and the literary aspects of the
bengali culture are very well-developed at this time - but, we think
that there is a considerable amount of negativity that goes with it.
For example, folks from a positive culture do not take part in such
pursuits as the geno innu and ttk! What contributes to the negativity,
in your view? That's because the bengali culture is a half culture -
the technological aspect is not well-developed. During the early part
of the British rule, they were also leading the industrial revolution
in Europe, both in mechanical engineering (e.g., the Steam Engine
based developments, heavy engineering, steam ships) and in elecrical
engineering (Michael Faraday's electric generator and motor). They were
doing everything - concept, implementation, and running. While people
from Bengal and other regions of India were only involved peripherally
with those developments - they were not trying to do the same thing
that they did with the linguistic and literary aspects of the culture.
That is, they were not doing any original engineering. Of course, it was
much more difficult. Over time, it weakened the "tech spine" that you had
earlier talked about and even an appreciation for core tech development
work.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

But, we see that scientists like JC Bose, PC Ray, CV Raman, MN Saha,
and SN Bose did important original work in science out of Bengal under
the british rule. True, but their work did not create a pervasive tech
culture among the people. One must, however, acknowledge the british
sense of fairness by noting that all of them were inducted into the
Royal Society as fellows, although they were colonial subjects.
Why did their work in science not produce a pervasive tech culture
among the people? That's a good question! Probably because the then
Bengal media did not project them enough, not as much as they did
with the literary/music/theater/cinema/sports figures. So, they did not
get the cultural support from the media. In contrast, Newton, Watt,
Faraday, Darwin, Maxwell were known in every household of Britain. Of
course, the application space of their works was wider. Ha ha! That's
why we from Ekballpore are giving support to your core tech work!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Thanks, but, I need real pcg support to get ahead. By the way, what
do you mean by a "pervasive tech culture" - some Ekballporeans want
to know. A pervasive tech culture enables a nation to build most things
that they use in their daily life. That's what earns a nation respect.
Suppose a visitor comes to Ekballpore and asks, can you guys build
all the things that you use? Probably, your answer will be No. Then
he will ask, what about some of the things? You better be able to say
Yes! Then he may ask individually, you, you, you? You want to see some
hands rise up. Yes, that's why we are giving so much emphasis on innovation.
But, you have a good point - we need to network our companies in such
a way that we go more in the direction of self-sufficiency. Of course,
we understand that these are not the days of British rule in India,
and most things have already been invented, and are available to those
that can buy them. True, but, still it is important to be able to
build and manufacture the basic needs. What if folks stop selling them
to you!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, PM Twoballski and the president agree with your stressing
the importance of the pervasive tech culture. They want to set up a
committee involving some of the top engineers of Ekballpore to look
into our dependencies. The primary dependencies first. We understand
there are deeper dependencies - for example, can you build the machines
that are used to manufacture the product, what about the machine parts,
and the machines to produce the machine parts, and so on until you hit
the raw materials level. Then you need to worry about how to acquire the
raw materials in their acceptable form and purity levels. Yes, it is a
very complex chain of dependencies, and a sincere effort to try to remove
at least a few of them builds the pervasive tech culture. I am now reading
about sewage and drainage systems since ancient times. It appears that
the modern underground networked wastewater drainage systems originated
in the Indus Valley Civilization (pre-hindu wave) about 5000 years ago.
Looks like they were pretty tech-savvy in town planning for their time.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Speaking of sewage/drainage systems, it is extremely important to
make sure the surrounding water resources are not getting contaminated.
We had a landmark case in California where a lady named Erin Brockovich
valiantly fought over groundwater contamination through what was thought
to be incorrect wastewater disposal by PG&E, a power supply company.
So, this is another area where a pervasive tech culture helps -
it makes you aware of non-apparent pollution, and theft (e.g., information
theft) that have become a part of the modern living. If you are not
aware how can you fight! Engineer, you make a smart point - it clearly
indicates that those who make you correctly "aware" are your friends.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Here is an interesting excerpt from the Tripitaka, the book of Buddhism,
that our new adapative Buddhists find interesting.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.093.than.html
Here the Buddha is debating the hindu caste system, and the brahmin-
supremacist position. Yes, I agree. The Buddha's debating style was
impressive - he uses his opponent's own judgement of situations to
convince him. He could recognize at that time, 2500 years ago, that
the caste system, or any type of religious rigidity for that matter,
inhibits out-of-the-box non-conventional thinking that is needed for
significant developments. Also, socially, if all people are allowed to
excel in any type of endeavor the chances/quality of success
increase/improves. Engineer, we think, that the "deadly secret" that
we earlier discussed is a "box" that is inhibiting your progress.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Here is an interesting excerpt from the Tripitaka, the book of Buddhism,
that our new adapative Buddhists find interesting.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.093.than.html
Here the Buddha is debating the hindu caste system, and the brahmin-
supremacist position. Yes, I agree. The Buddha's debating style was
impressive - he uses his opponent's own judgement of situations to
convince him. He could recognize at that time, 2500 years ago, that
the caste system, or any type of religious rigidity for that matter,
inhibits out-of-the-box non-conventional thinking that is needed for
significant developments. Also, socially, if all people are allowed to
excel in any type of endeavor the chances/quality of success
increase/improves. Engineer, we think, that the "deadly secret" that
we earlier discussed is a "box" that is inhibiting your progress.

I went through the above link. Looks like by the time of Buddha there was huge corruption in India, even more than there is now. The intellectual standard as presented, was extremely low, in comparison with the genuine Hindu scriptures! Thus, Buddhism etc. have always appealed to the inferior minds.

Anyway, the superiority of Brahmins according to the Puranas has to do with the triumph of Dadhichi the Brahmin disciple of Shiva over the Kshatriya Kshup, the disciple of Vishnu.

Or in other words, the triumph of goodness over beauty, or meditation over management. Austerity and faith are the prices to be paid by the Brahmin for this unquestioned superiority.

But Kali or Truth is above all, and She is equally accessible to all.

Thus the proper understanding of scripture, meaning the Vedas and even more importantly the Puranas, is essential for understanding the most ancient Indian thought processes, and making sense of their ruins that comprise modern Hinduism.

Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Here is an interesting excerpt from the Tripitaka, the book of Buddhism,
that our new adapative Buddhists find interesting.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.093.than.html
Here the Buddha is debating the hindu caste system, and the brahmin-
supremacist position. Yes, I agree. The Buddha's debating style was
impressive - he uses his opponent's own judgement of situations to
convince him. He could recognize at that time, 2500 years ago, that
the caste system, or any type of religious rigidity for that matter,
inhibits out-of-the-box non-conventional thinking that is needed for
significant developments. Also, socially, if all people are allowed to
excel in any type of endeavor the chances/quality of success
increase/improves. Engineer, we think, that the "deadly secret" that
we earlier discussed is a "box" that is inhibiting your progress.

I went through the above link. Looks like by the time of Buddha there was huge corruption in India, even more than there is now. The intellectual standard as presented, was extremely low, in comparison with the genuine Hindu scriptures! Thus, Buddhism etc. have always appealed to the inferior minds.
Anyway, the superiority of Brahmins according to the Puranas has to do with the triumph of Dadhichi the Brahmin disciple of Shiva over the Kshatriya Kshup, the disciple of Vishnu.
Or in other words, the triumph of goodness over beauty, or meditation over management. Austerity and faith are the prices to be paid by the Brahmin for this unquestioned superiority.
But Kali or Truth is above all, and She is equally accessible to all.
Thus the proper understanding of scripture, meaning the Vedas and even more importantly the Puranas, is essential for understanding the most ancient Indian thought processes, and making sense of their ruins that comprise modern Hinduism.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Buddhism showed a path to social justice to the majority Indians of the
time. The situation had become like that of South Africa in pre-Nelson
Mandela times - a small segment of foreigners bringing in a superiority
cult. Some scholarly markers are cited under
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
It is interesting to find the grammatical dual number (dwi-bachan)
in both Ancient Greek and Sanskrit.

[Arindam Banerjee]

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri

Post by Arindam Banerjee

Post by Arya Raychaudhuri
Here is an interesting excerpt from the Tripitaka, the book of Buddhism,
that our new adapative Buddhists find interesting.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.093.than.html
Here the Buddha is debating the hindu caste system, and the brahmin-
supremacist position. Yes, I agree. The Buddha's debating style was
impressive - he uses his opponent's own judgement of situations to
convince him. He could recognize at that time, 2500 years ago, that
the caste system, or any type of religious rigidity for that matter,
inhibits out-of-the-box non-conventional thinking that is needed for
significant developments. Also, socially, if all people are allowed to
excel in any type of endeavor the chances/quality of success
increase/improves. Engineer, we think, that the "deadly secret" that
we earlier discussed is a "box" that is inhibiting your progress.

I went through the above link. Looks like by the time of Buddha there was huge corruption in India, even more than there is now. The intellectual standard as presented, was extremely low, in comparison with the genuine Hindu scriptures! Thus, Buddhism etc. have always appealed to the inferior minds.
Anyway, the superiority of Brahmins according to the Puranas has to do with the triumph of Dadhichi the Brahmin disciple of Shiva over the Kshatriya Kshup, the disciple of Vishnu.
Or in other words, the triumph of goodness over beauty, or meditation over management. Austerity and faith are the prices to be paid by the Brahmin for this unquestioned superiority.
But Kali or Truth is above all, and She is equally accessible to all.
Thus the proper understanding of scripture, meaning the Vedas and even more importantly the Puranas, is essential for understanding the most ancient Indian thought processes, and making sense of their ruins that comprise modern Hinduism.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee

Buddhism showed a path to social justice to the majority Indians of the
time. The situation had become like that of South Africa in pre-Nelson
Mandela times - a small segment of foreigners bringing in a superiority
cult. Some scholarly markers are cited under
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hinduism
It is interesting to find the grammatical dual number (dwi-bachan)
in both Ancient Greek and Sanskrit.

Budhism, like Marxism, was a curse which lasted much longer than Marxism.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, it is possible - at least that is what the ttk woman on the other
side is suggesting. But, speaking of deadly secrets there could be
more than one of those! Sure, but there may be millions of deadly
secrets floating around in the universe - you should be worried
about only the one(s) that come in your way. Of course, the new
police suggest that one lesser deadly secret could be used as a cover
over a more serious one - like you say in bengali, covering a fish
with a leaf of spinach! Ha ha! By the way, some Ekballporeans take
exception to your interjector's comment that Buddhism should appeal
to "inferior minds". Since Buddhism has appealed to Ekballporeans,
does he mean we are inferior?! We don't want such hindus coming into
Ekballpore! Don't mind his comments, he is like the young boy
Assalayana with incorrect intellectual focus - instead of looking
at the archeological history of the migrants, he seems more interested
in some factional fights mentioned in the scriptures.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, the new police think that the "spectre" issue could
be a "leaf of spinach" covering some real "fish"! Yes, this thought
has crossed my mind. Because, whenever a security or privacy
vulnerability happens, the first thought that comes up is if there
are more such, and probably deeper. Interestingly, the ttk woman
is comparing the genocidal innuendo while I am driving with the
speculative execution of the CPUs giving rise to the "spectre"
bug. :-) Probably, they want to predict where you are going,
so that they can instruct the shop-owner to do some ethnic
subjugation in advance.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, we were following your debate with the priest class
supremacist guy on Buddhism. You have successfully brought out the
humanity and compassion aspect of the Buddha's teachings - as was
evident from Tagore's Avisar poem. Well, I was not particularly
interested in debating, but, used the vehicle to say what I wanted
to say on the topic. I am personally more motivated by the Buddha's
emphasis on individual scientific inquiry as exemplified by his Kalama
Sutta. And, I do believe that the Gods and Goddesses are creations of
the mind. That is, take out the human mind, there are no Gods and
Goddesses! That's why, the new archeological emphasis on relating the
so-called divine deities to actual human beings who had existed a long
time ago. For example, the historical and literary sources section under
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna discusses the post-Vedic nature of
Lord Krishna.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Speaking of Tagore, whom you often quote from, some Ekballporean
literature students find some of his socio-political stances contradiction
ridden, for example, they pointed to me the following article that
show some instances:
http://islamicresearchmission.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-other-side-of-rabindranath-tagore.html
Apparently, he favors the hindu caste system, yet he laments the disunity
among hindus - and the fact that he belongs to brahmoism which is a subset
of hinduism, that looks more like Buddhism than practical hinduism of his
time. Yes, I agree that there are some contradictions in his socio-political
stances as presented in the article. But, his talent and creative output
was of such high quality and quantity, I wouldn't care about such minor
contradictions. For example, in the hey-day of steam engine-driven trains
you suddenly discover that James Watt had said something unfriendly about
Ekballporeans - would you stop traveling by trains! Also, I am an Engineer
- I take from Tagore what suits my constructions. He was a major architect
of my mother tongue, and I greatly enjoy listening to his song compositions,
and reading his poetry and prose.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we agree. For example, in the Brahman poem,
http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Poem&PoemID=3442
Tagore indicated the magnanimity of the priest caste (Brahmin) sage
Gautama, when he accepted a non-Brahmin student - but, you took it
as a corroboration of the fact that the early hindus did not usually
teach the sanskrit shlokas to non-Brahmins. Yes, of course, because
that helps your synthesis of adaptive Buddhism. But, what about Tagore's
communal anti-muslim views? Well, they represent a tension between
the two waves that we have discussed - the early sanskrit wave that
Tagore represented, and the later muslim waves that had defeated the
hindus. But, if you look carefully, both these waves almost jointly
crushed the remnants of the first counter-wave, the Buddhists.
Obviously, Tagore was conscious of the spirit of unity and the lack of
unnecessary rituals among muslims - that gave them strength. But,
towards the later part of his life, Tagore realized that all the
positive features of Islam were already there in Buddhism, which was
much gentler, compassionate, and indigenous. But, you guys are doing
good - you are making your version of adaptive Buddhism more fighting
fit.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we agree. For example, in the Brahman poem,
http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Poem&PoemID=3442
Tagore indicated the magnanimity of the priest caste (Brahmin) sage
Gautama, when he accepted a non-Brahmin student - but, you took it
as a corroboration of the fact that the early hindus did not usually
teach the sanskrit shlokas to non-Brahmins. Yes, of course, because
that helps your synthesis of adaptive Buddhism. But, what about Tagore's
communal anti-muslim views? Well, they represent a tension between
the two waves that we have discussed - the early sanskrit wave that
Tagore represented, and the later muslim waves that had defeated the
hindus. But, if you look carefully, both these waves almost jointly
crushed the remnants of the first counter-wave, the Buddhists.
Obviously, Tagore was conscious of the spirit of unity and the lack of
unnecessary rituals among muslims - that gave them strength.
Also, whatever Tagore thought was not necessarily true, the third
counter-wave proved that. But, towards the later part of his life,
Tagore realized that all the positive features of Islam were already
there in Buddhism, which was much gentler, compassionate, and indigenous.
But, you guys are doing good - you are making your version of adaptive
Buddhism more fighting fit. Further readings tell me that there were some
good Greek waves, Alexander and pre-Alexander that may have brought
some good post-harappa engineering into ancient India. Even King Ashoka
may have had some Greek genes in him.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, that's an interesting point - engineering goes against caste/ethnic
supremacist positions. Because, benefits of engineering often pervade
into the masses - unless it is intentionally directed against them.
That's why you saw the british heavy engineering scare the brahminic
as well as the islamic supremacists. True that's why I am trying to push
my engineering. But, the san francisco bay area seems to be dominated
by lots of supremacist types - from different races and ethnicities.
So that, my engineering, although very relevant is still stuck. But,
we saw that during the Obama administration your small biz was at least
getting some projects, but none during the Trump administration. Do you
think that the Trump administration is against colored minority
overachievers owning small biz? I cannot comment on this, because,
I don't know. Also, the administration in Washington is pretty far
removed from the California's silicon valley - it's not a federal
jurisdiction. But, it is possible that with the change in presidency
the local supremacist types got emboldened - ignore his engineering!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

So, are you looking at further degradation of your first amendment
rights to pursue happiness through work, beyond the earlier issues
of privacy rights, as associated with the geno innu? Yes, in fact,
things have been worse in 2017, compared to 2016. We in Ekballpore
have found the crime rate dropping significantly after the police
reform - so low that we are now giving additional work to the police,
to look into the "republic nature of the state" related complaints.
As you know, we moved from absolute monarchy under Ekball to a "republic"
now, through our new constitution. Some constitutional law experts have
helped us with a small booklet containing the basic human rights that
can get violated. We have distributed the booklet among the people
of Ekballpore. That's a good idea - because, here people come from
various places in the world where the rights are not well-defined,
nor properly understood. What is privacy? What is meritocracy?
They may ask. And, some are simply arrogant bull in a china store types
- don't give a damn about rights!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Are the bengalis of South Indian origin? I am asking this because I
sometimes find similarity between the bengali faces and the faces from
the South of India. No, bengalis are east Indians with a mixture of
north/south/east/west genes. The southern infusion probably took place
during the Sena rule (1070-1230 AD) of Bengal. But, some retrogressive
events took place during that time. Mainly, the orthodox brahminical
caste based hinduism was reintroduced into the Buddhist (from the
Pala rule, 750-1174 AD) dominated Bengal, and eventually, the Buddhists
and their five cosmopolitan universities (including the oldest, Nalanda U)
were crushed, partly by the Sena rulers, and later by the invading islamic
Turks. It's like some major US universities suddenly going whites-only.
The common people of Bengal got so frustrated with the divisive
developments that they almost welcomed the islamic invasion (1203 AD) by
the Turko-afghan invader Bakhtyar Khilji. At least, we can move from
one caste-less religion to another, they thought, and converted to Islam in
large numbers - a major component of the population of Bangladesh. I guess,
the ruling elites of West Bengal, on the other hand, don't seem to have
fully recovered from the influence of the Sena days! So, you mean to say
that the invading Turks took advantage of the conflict between the unity
seeking Buddhists, and the divisive hindus? Yes, I think so - but, of
course, these things happened almost a thousand years ago, I am just
trying to reconstruct some aspects.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we understand the retrogression that you mention. Because,
Buddhism had already brought social justice and cosmopolitanism
- it had flourished tremendously, first at Taxila after King
Ashoka (304 BC - 232 BC), and then at Nalanda and at other centers
after King Harsha (590-647 AD). So much that it became an export
quality religion! Speaking of export quality, the country of Newdovia
is making a similar transition from monarchy to democracy, like us.
The president of Newdovia has contacted President Doball to
show interest in our new organization of the state. They want
to buy components of our new system, so that they can incorporate
them in their country. Folks from Newdovia will visit Ekballpore
for training. Wow! Congratulations - building an export quality system
in such a short time is awesome! They also want our adaptive Buddhism.
Cool!

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Today, I realized that the last break-in that took place on my
car port storage cabinet was not without theft. A whole bunch of
old documents/books/papers etc. that I had placed in a plastic
container were stolen. Engineer, was it the same plastic container
that they took the old passport from, when you had lived in your
previous apartment? Yes, the same one. It suggests to me that the
person(s) that were involved in that earlier break-in may be
also involved in the carport break-in, if not directly, at least
peripherally. Probably, they were looking for some document that could
be somehow used against you. This happens when someone had done
some harm to you without your knowledge. Now, before you come to know
about it and take action against it the person(s) tried to preemptively
steal something that could be used as a balancing item! Possible.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, congratulations on your new bicycle innovation! It
definitely should be the most significant since the introduction
of the safety bikes in the 1880s. Also, the fact that the manualized
engine design is a look ahead into the future with higher fuel prices.
Yes, I thought that for most local trips, you don't need that much
speed, so the manualized engine would be good for three and four-
wheelers too. And, even for small boats. Obviously, it's an extension
of the electroMagnet based engine that I had discussed in Item#s 372-374,
whose important feature was the use of the pawl with the drive piston.
That eliminated the need for the dreadful crank - the same idea is
carried forward to the piston-pawl bicycle. The pawl makes it different
from the treadle based designs - putting more logic into motion.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Some Ekballporeans have found contradictions between your current views
on the British imperialism in India, and those in your Aug 10, 1992
Op/Ed contribution (quoted below) in the Vancouver Sun newspaper.
Well, my current views are more mature, and a result of much reading and
thinking. So, the Op/Ed contribution from 25 years ago should not be taken
too seriously! I was fresh off the boat from India to pursue my PhD studies
on a Commonwealth Scholarship - and, my views represented the prevailing
"upper caste" hindu outlook. In fact, the conclusions drawn in that
article are not all true by my current thinking. The British imperialism
did a lot of good to India, as we have recently discussed. Imperialisms
can be good or bad depending on the natures of the colonizers and the
colonized at a given time - but, at all times we have to see that it is
not impacting the freedoms of the colonized in a negative way. With the
new world view of the sub-continent, I recognize the hindus and the muslims
as colonizers too - as we discussed with "waves" concept.

Op/Ed contribution as quoted from the Vancouver Sun (Aug 10, 1992,
page A11):
"Imperialism did nothing to help India prosper
--------------------------------------------------------------
I read with interest the article by Joseph Bako
(In Praise of British Imperialism, Op/Ed, July 11),
Being born and brought up in post-colonial India,
I wish to make the following comments.
It is far from generally true that British
imperialism brought the beginnings of prosperity in its
colonies. The Indian subcontinent, for example, was
already quite prosperous.
In fact, it was this prosperity that attracted many
Arab and European invaders. The earliest records
of history attribute the pioneering invasion to Emperor
Alexander of Greece about 2000 years ago.
I have no reason to believe that these imperialists,
including the British, had very dissimilar intentions.
In fact, it is now believed that the British presence
in India served to create an unprecedented and ugly
gap between the rich and the poor of India. Also, one
must not confuse the British colonies of Asia
and Africa with those of America for obvious reasons.
Any imperialism brings sufferings for more than one
generation of native people and often leaves behind dirty
scars.
The attendant share of prosperity of the colonizers is
hardly any compensation. The continued suffering of black
people of South Africa is a convincing example.
Also, the most developed nations today achieved their
remarkable developments deep into their post-colonial
periods or had little to do with British imperialism.
I will therefore argue that no imperialism is praiseworthy.
Even in the matter of population growth an important
antithesis exists. If we add up the populations
of people of British origin scattered all over the
world, we will observe one of the highest percentage
increase in populatin of a single community over the
last 300 years.
At the same time, the native populations of the
colonies maintained their pre-colonial growth rates.
Hence, imperialism aided by industrialization has hardly
been successful in stabilizing the world population. It
appears technology can help population only in a free
and democratic country that is neither a colony nor a
colonizer.

ARYA RAYCHAUDHURI
Burnaby"

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Obviously, there has been a change in your outlook over the years.
I wonder how you got disillusioned with your "upper caste" identity.
Ha ha! That's a good question. Well, earlier, when I was young, I used
to think that my caste ('kayastha' as it is called in bengali) was the
top caste in Bengal. Simply because so many overachievers in diverse
fields belonged to the caste - science, freedom movement, poetry, music,
literature, medicine, law, armed forces, art, religion, etc. So, I thought
it was good, at least they have created the caste system based on work
achievements, and who cares there are some other castes too. But, later
I found out that it was not like that in Bengal, since the medieval
times (the Sena dynasty and afterwards till the early 1800s) - the priest
caste was considered the top caste, and all the other castes were put in
a combined category called 'shudra' or non-brahmin. For example, please
look up
http://www.eng.vedanta.ru/library/prabuddha_bharata/Feb2005_Sri_Ramakrishna_and_the_caste_system.php
This later realization told me that the caste system was not based on
work achievements - so, it must be wrong! Also, that an individual
overachiever can come from any caste - a point that was first raised by
the Lord Buddha, 2500 years ago when he had lived a couple of hundred
miles from Bengal.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, I read the article that you referred to with interest.
Apparently, the caste system was so brutal in Bengal that the brahmins
didn't even accept cooked food and water from the shudras. Yes, that
seems to have been the situation. Probably, the brahmins always lived
in the fear of retribution for the exploitation that they meted out
to the shudras - lest they poison the food and water! Which is why
the shudras started to become more friendly with the christian foreigners
who had no such fear and mingled freely. My guess is that Sri Ramakrishna
could sense that, and relaxed some of the brahminical rigidity. Also,
the shudras started receiving the western education, and found that
the west had already been very innovative in science and technology,
as well as in other aspects of the society. The first question that
triggered in their mind was why couldn't the brahmins with all their
knowledge and wisdom come up with similar innovations! In fact, the
first bengali grammars were also written by the europeans. That's when
kayastha stalwarts such as MM Dutta and GC Ghosh started creating their
own creative domains.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we understand - after more than 700 years of almost zero enterprise
and innovations, suddenly, the bengali nation sprang up! True, and, Prof
JC Bose started doing his physics experiments on wireless transmit and
receive. Also, the bengali language, the language of the common people,
that was contemptuously neglected in favor of the brahminical sanskrit
started getting the major boost it needed from the local poets and writers.
All these things happened due to the british presence - the second counter-
wave. Look, in the Buddhist Pala period (before 1100 AD), folks showed
tremendous enterprise - travelling overseas, carrying the religion, culture,
and even the then nascent bengali language/script with them.
(https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Bengali_Language_and_Literature/Chapter_1)
They built several universities - that helped in the exchange of
scholarship with other nations. In the subsequent 700 years they built
nothing - no innovations, you are right. The whole bengali nation turned
into a dead nation under the brahminical orthodoxy, and the islamic rigidity. That was the period of retrogression.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Yes, we understand - after more than 700 years of almost zero enterprise
and innovations, suddenly, the bengali nation sprang up! True, and, Prof
JC Bose started doing his physics experiments on wireless transmit and
receive. Also, the bengali language, the language of the common people,
that was contemptuously neglected in favor of the brahminical sanskrit
started getting the major boost it needed from the local poets and writers.
All these things happened due to the british presence - the second counter-
wave. Look, in the Buddhist Pala period (before 1100 AD), folks showed
tremendous enterprise - travelling overseas, carrying the religion, culture,
and even the then nascent bengali language/script with them.
(https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/History_of_Bengali_Language_and_Literature/Chapter_1)
They built several universities - that helped in the exchange of
scholarship with other nations. In the subsequent 700 years they built
nothing - no innovations, you are right. The whole bengali nation turned
into a dead nation under the brahminical orthodoxy, and the islamic
rigidity. That was the period of retrogression - the wasted centuries.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, some Ekballporeans like the idea of the alleged interpretation
of your caste discussion by the ttk woman. She is apparently hinting at a
dynamic "shudro" concept. Repetitive work - shudro, innovative work -
unshudro. They think it will relieve many hindus from the unethical and
depressing characterization and compartmentalization that pass hereditarily
over generations. In their own life they can get promoted and demoted
depending on their work! Bullshit! Totally not practical - who is going
to keep track of their repetitions and innovations. That's why, the Buddha
came up with the casteless society concept. Also, very few people worry
about the excellence of genes - men and women often get together based on
mutual liking. By the way, your piston-2pawl drive as applied to a boat
has been looking good in Ekballpore. Good, I am expecting the boat to be
popular in many countries, where manually driven boats still use oars.
Also, because it is going to be easy to drive and inexpensive - the boat
may find markets among hobbyists.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, some Ekballporeans like the idea of the alleged interpretation
of your caste discussion by the ttk woman. She is apparently hinting at a
dynamic "shudro" concept. Repetitive work - shudro, innovative work -
unshudro. They think it will relieve many hindus from the unethical and
depressing characterization and compartmentalization that pass hereditarily
over generations. In their own life they can get promoted and demoted
depending on their work! B*l*sh*t! Totally not practical - who is going
to keep track of their repetitions and innovations. That's why, the Buddha
came up with the casteless society concept. Also, very few people worry
about the excellence of genes - men and women often get together based on
mutual liking. By the way, your piston-2pawl drive as applied to a boat
has been looking good in Ekballpore. Good, I am expecting the boat to be
popular in many countries, where manually driven boats still use oars.
Also, because it is going to be easy to drive and inexpensive - the boat
may find markets among hobbyists.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, your engineering innovations seem to proclaim like Descartes,
I innovate therefore I am! :-) Well, I am being forced to innovate in
order to fight the negativity - geno innu and counter-meritocracy.
So, in a sense, yes, I am trying to keep myself warm through all this.
In Ekballpore, we were trying to gauge the reason for Bengal's coldness
towards engineering innovations. Some said that Bengal may be slowly
going back to those dark days of the medieval 700 years. Their logic
is that since the british engineering innovations actually diluted the
powers of the orthodoxies, the latter somehow retained the grudge
against engineering innovations over the last 7-8 generations since
the early 1800s. And, after the british left in 1947, they started to
regroup and gave excessive emphasis to the linguistic aspects of the
culture. One also reckons that although Sri Ramakrishna and his
disciple Swami Vivekananda had eased the caste differences somewhat,
they did not eliminate it! In our view, the caste system is as bad as
the sati ritual. Interesting point. You are trying to say that
science and engineering goes against the caste system, but, literature,
cinema, music don't.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

The new ceo of the Ekballpore company brought your example in a
talk delivered to the engineers, in which he stressed the importance
of individual effort. He particularly mentioned your piston-pawl
drive based recent innovations - all the vehicles are driven by
individual effort, consuming no fuel at all, and no emissions. The
new meritocratic structure of the company creates a situation that
supports and appreciates new inventions in tech. He said he himself
is a hands-on guy who spends half his workday at the lab. In the
Ekball era, things were different, ceos were known by the company
they led - ceo of X company, ceo of Y company, etc. That is, take
out the company from underneath, the ceo has no value! Ha Ha!
Fortunately, I am a one-man company and hold the company up with my
own efforts. That is, the company is above me, and I am underneath.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Some detractors in Ekballpore wonder how you can push a vehicle
sitting or standing on it, as with your piston-pawl drive based ones.
How would you convince them? It's quite simple - you are not pushing
the vehicle's frame, you are pushing/pulling the piston that can move
with respect to the vehicle's frame. Just as in a typical bicycle,
you are sitting on the frame of the bike and pushing the pedal which
can move in a circular motion with respect to the inertial frame.
In fact, I was checking with my weight measure machine that I can
easily generate a 100lbs push with one foot or with two hands. With
that being the case, I can easily take a piston-pawl bike/scooter from
0 to 10mph with just 6-7 pushes. And, to achieve 15mph, you would just
need about 15 pushes. If the speed falls by a couple of miles, you can
bring it back to 15mph using 3-4 pushes.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Very impressive news about farming without soil - that can go with
multi-story farming. Thanks to the genius of chemical physicist
Yuichi Mori of Japan, polymer film farming has started producing
fruits and vegetables in good quantities:

http://www.scmp.com/magazines/style/article/2094426/farming-without-soil-new-japanese-tech-makes-growing-fruit-and

Multi-story farming is also suitable for regions that are often
flooded. But, the main worry was how to get so much soil.
Hopefully, the technology will advance soon to produce even wheat and
rice.

[Arya Raychaudhuri]

Engineer, we in Ekballpore feel more vindicated in our decision to go
for adaptive Buddhism after reading your debate with the anti-enterprise
guy! How the guy was trying to pull you back. No wonder hindus got
overwhelmed by foreign rulers so many times in history. Such negativity
is rare. Well, I am a hindu too, but, of course, I was not aware of
the negative features of hinduism when I was young and did not have much
creative output. It's like an archeological artifact with some writings
inscribed on it. But, all types of mud and sand particles obfuscating the
inscription. You spray a little bit of water, and brush the mud out, no
it's still not clear, spray a little more water, and again use the brush,
and so on. My creative effort is like that.